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, basically flipping the lights back on and harry reid taking to the floor to eviscerate speaker boehner. >> the sad part is you often seen the floor opened that way. mitch mcconnell being later today. i'm sure we'll hear something later. to hear it two days after christmas and a matter of days before we go through the fiscal cliff, obviously not encouraging. harry reid says time is running hout. he doesn't know if they could go through the legislative hurdles. if they have the votes around here, they can legislate the sky is green and the grass is blue. that's not an issue. what harry reid is really saying is mitch mcconnell, get on board, don't try to filibuster. of course they're talking about a bill that had raise capital on couples making more than $250,000 a year, and do a few other nuts and bolts that are deemed the bare minimum that the president wants to see done before we hit january 1st. i've got to tell you, though, getting back to the votes, the votes simply aren't there in the house of representatives for that. they're likely not even there in the senate, so we're back at s
the president what s your plan, senator harry reid are you going pass a budget. i really do believe that the president and the democrats really have no intention and as a result have no plan to limit the rate of growth in government and no plan to save social security and medicare and we need to start putting political pressure on them to show the american people a plan. the house passed two budgets since i have been here. they both include some proposal to save medicare. the democrats have not done that and this is really where we start turning the messaging on them and start demanding. i think the american people have a right to know, president obama are you going so solve the 92% or 93% of the deficit. what is it that you talked about on the campaign trail? >> sean: how can you help me he out or help the american people out. they don't know what taxes will be in a couple of days and now we are counting the hours. how is it possible the u.s. senate does not pass a spending bill which constitutionally they are supposed to pass in over three years, over 13 hyundais and then elect th
assume harry reid is here and their staffs are going back and forth. i spoke to one aide who said don't expect for any details to leak tonight. they'll be closed-lipped about this because the idea if anything does leak out it gives more of an opportunity for folks on either party to kill a deal if they don't like what they hear. some sort of a agreement will be announced tomorrow when the house is back in session and the senate is back in session and they can go back to say hey, this is the best opportunity. as far as the likelihood of this kraig, things have not been going well and there's optimism here and there and things are fluid like kristen says and it will be the final deal, but what we do know is these folks on capitol hill are very mindful of the damage that can be done to the economy if nothing is brief. we've had five down days in the stock market and we're preparing the country on tuesday for the first tax increase in 20 years, and i think finally at the end, that's starting to resonate at least with some of the elder members of both sides hence why we're even here on a s
it as discordant remarks based on the fact harry reid and mitch mcconnell were working at it and continue to do so with their top staff and the representatives as well. where are we? i have been told there's movement from both sides that is considered constructive. it's not something they are ready to bring forward. we won't get incredible details until members get briefed. when you look at what's happening inside the room things like what threshold should taxes become higher or unemployment benefits or other taxes, all the variables. they have to decide and gauge will their membership also agree. it's a really important two-step. to give you a sense of how members are preparing themselves for what may come, here is lindsey graham who was on television earlier this morning. >> exceedingly good. i think people don't want to go over the cliff. i think what have we accomplished, political victory to the president. hats off to him. he's going to get tax rate increases, maybe not at 250, but upper rate americans. we accomplished little in not become greece. this won't affect the debt situation. it will
've yet to receive a response to our good faith offer. >> democratic leader harry reid said the gulf over taxes was still too wide, and he indicated the white house might be tying his hands. >> i've had a number of conversations with the president, and at this stage, we're not able to make a counteroffer. >> reporter: so senator mcconnell called the vice president, who he served with in the senate for 24 years. the two men spoke several times sunday. >> i want everyone to know i'm willing to get this done, but i need a dance partner. >> reporter: democrats want to let the bush-era tax cuts expire for all household incomes over $250,000 a year. republicans would rather set the cutoff at around $500,000 or keep the tax cuts in place for everyone. the two sides are also at odds over the estate tax rate which currently stands at 35% but is set to revert to 55%. even if senate leaders do strike a deal and pass a bill today, it would still need to go up for a vote in the house, but at this point, many members are just hoping their leaders can come up with something if only
as they can, even if it means going over the fiscal cliff. so if harry reid and mr. mcconnell can't come up with something, then you've got barack obama's proposal. >> joy, even before it gets to the house republicans, there are plenty of republicans in the senate who can mess this up, right? even if mcconnell and reid have a deal, there's no guarantee that there isn't a single tea party-backed senator. >> well, i mean, at the end of the day, look, mitch mcconnell is a much better leader of his caucus. and mcconnell has really controlled the leaders. the fact that he's meeting with harry reid means there probably isn't going to be a filibuster. i'll find that very surprising. the problem is that never have we seen, not in my lifetime, a weaker speaker of the house of representative than john boehner. john boehner has essentially thrown up his hands and walked away from this process. he's walked away from the constitutional mandate that senate and tax bills come from the house, not the senate. and he's said you guys pass something. they were going to pass something. it's the house that's the
: after weighing 18 hours from senate majority leader harry reid who seemed to throw in the towel. >> there is still significant difference between two sides and negotiations continue. there is still time left to reach an agreement and we intend to continue negotiations. >> reporter: a big issue is what thresh do you continue the bush tax cuts. the democrats latest proposal, extend expiring tax rates for individuals with taxable income up to $360,000. and couples with income of about $450,000. senate republicans latest proposal allah taxes to rise on $450,000 for individuals and 550,000 for couples. republican aides say the democrats in the senate have not made any additional offers since saturday afternoon. gregg: what is going on the house side of the capitol? >> reporter: the attitude they have been doing their work all year long. they have been passing multiple bills throughout the course of 2012 and they feel like it is now time for the senate to act. here is a sample of the house republican view. >> we'll see what the senate brings back. ball's in their court. they have had
:00 a.m. yesterday, senate leader harry reid said he didn't think the fiscal cliff could be avoided. as you can see, stocks plunged. shortly after noon, senator scott brown posted on facebook of all things that he was headed back to washington because the president had reached out to the gop leadership with a proposal. then the markets bounced up a bit. but then cnbc's john harwood tweeted the white house denied skost brown's post and markets dropped again. thanks, john, for that. then came a late day surge on news that speaker boehner called the house back to washington, and late today we learned that the white house is holding a conference call with ceos on the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations. so maybe things will change once more again tomorrow. joining me now to discuss the business ramifications and what the markets think of all this, the editor of thegrio.com and msnbc contributor joy reid. >> hey, richard. >> hi, joy. do we also have fortune magazine's assistant, yes, excellent, managing editor, leigh gallagher. thanks for joining us, too. wall street seems to have be
it does, the senate majority leader harry reid is expected to weigh in, in just about ten minutes on the looming fiscal cliff. reid and his fellow senators are under intense scrutiny after john boehner said the democratic controlled senate must act first on proposals already passed by his chamber. we will bring you reid's remarks as they happen. >>> as the clock ticks down toward the fiscal cliff, washington has a new worry the debt ceiling, treasury secretary tim geithner says the united states will hit its legal borrowing limit on monday. alison kosik is in new york. i feel like it's groundhog day. >> i know it really is. what's old is new again, right, carol? let me kind of back up the bus here. we start talking about the debt ceiling and i know people's eyes glaze over. let me tell you exactly what the debt ceiling is. it's a cap set by congress of the amount of money the federal government can borrow. right now the ceiling is at $16.394 trillion and treasury secretary tim geithner said earlier this week we could hit that debt ceiling on monday, on new year's eve and the treas
saw yesterday senate majority leader harry reid basically accusing john boehner of running a deck tate toreship, that was his word in the house of representatives. reid piled on a little bit late yesterday afternoon and senate republican leader mitch mcconnell responded. take a listen. >> speaker boehner should call members of the house back to washington today. he shouldn't have let them two in fact. they're not here. they're not here. john boehner seeps to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> reporter: there have been all eyes on senator mitch mcconnell, the republican leader, the counterpart to harry reid because he has been pretty quiet early on in the negotiations. was defering speaker boehner to give the republican side. after hearing senator reid yesterday, senator mcconnell fired back. take a listen. >> we're coming up against a hard deadline here and i said, this is a conversation we should had months ago. and republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we
anybody is actually doing anything right now. gregg: what about harry reid? what's his, does he have anything at all maybe towards the end of the week he will put on the table? i've been hearing he will put to a vote an extension of the bush tax cuts for anybody making under $250,000 a year, extend unemployment benefits for some 2 million people that are about to lose them. what are you hearing? >> right. he sounded pretty pessimistic this morning but that could change and there's, kind of a fight, procedurally between the house and the senate in a sense that if reid originates a bill in the senate that would do what you said, people in the house say, well that would be unacceptable because the constitution requires revenue bills to originate in the house. but there is this bill that the house did pass a while back extending tax cuts for everybody. the senate could actually amend that bill. it originated in the house and then send it back and actually get somewhere. you have to remember that john boehner actually gave in on the principle of raising tax rates for the highest earners.
're looking to play nice. today, senator harry reid blasted the speaker for refusing to even vote on a democratic plan that would protect 98% of americans. >> everyone knows that if they had brought up the house -- i'm sorry, the senate-passed bill that would give relief to everyone making less than $250,000 a year, it would pass overwhelmingly. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker. >> a dictatorship of the speaker. and here's house speaker boehner office responded. senator reid should talk less and legislate more. legislate more? what legislation has speaker boehner been working on while on vacation? while we're about to go over the cliff, the gop has been pointing fingers at the president. one gop aide says talks have failed because "the president made a strategic miscalculation and overreached. he picked a fight." picked a fight? sorry, that's not going to fly. the president has come to the table with numerous proposals. he isn't picking a fight. he's fighting for the american people. we all want a deal. but we will not give up our core principles. the preside
, and for our entire economy. but the hour for immediate action is here. it is now. >> senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell were back at the capitol in no time. mcconnell gathered his members to inform them of the work that needs to be done. >> we had a good meeting down at the white house. we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house, in the hopes that we can come forward, as early as sunday, and have a recommendation, that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference, so we'll be working hard to try to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> i'm going to do everything that i can. i'm confident senator mcconnell will do the same. but everybody, this is -- whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect and some people aren't going to like it. some people will like it less, but that's where we are. and i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear in the white house. and we're going to do the best we can for the caucuses that w
. >> reporter: with that harry reid and mitch mcconnell launched a last-ditch effort to craft a bipartisan plan to that would at the very least, protect most people from a big tax hike going into effect on new year's day. the senators and their staffs negotiated all day saturday. saturday night republican leader mcconnell made his offer. by this morning, a clear sense of optimism and warnings that failure would be unthinkable. >> there are certainly no breakthroughs yet, but there's a real possibility of a deal. >> if we are not able to reach an agreement, it will be dire. >> reporter: but the morning's optimism turned into the afternoon's pessimism. the senate opened for business at 1:00 p.m. with the ominous prayer from the chaplain. >> look with favor on our nation and save us from self-inflicted wounds. >> reporter: soon democratic leader reed acknowledged he had not been able to make a counteroffer to republicans. >> it's just that we're apart on some pretty big issues. >> reporter: grfrt -- frustrated with the impasse, republican mcconnell said he called vice president biden, urging him t
. the president, vice president biden, senate majority leader harry reid and house minority leader nancy pelosi on the democratic side. house speaker john boehner, mitch mcconnell representing the republicans. brianna keilar live from washington. what do we expect to happen today? any new offers from the president or house speaker? >> we don't know. right now, all eyes on the senate to see what senate majority leader harry reid can cobble together to get some republican support. technically, it's still possible to come to an agreement. that said, politically is a different story, and the prospects for coming to a deal are starting to dim. right now, we're hearing a whole lot of the blame game. a lot of public posturing from both sides as they prepare for the possibility of going over the cliff. let's listen to harry reid. >> we are here in washington working while members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching their kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> now, the speaker of the house, john boehner, sort of retorting t
and they are scattered throughout the country and taxes are going up on january 1st. let's listen to harry reid. he is not happy about the house and being away. he is the top senate democrat. >> we are here in washington working. we have the house of representatives out watching movies and watching their kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> here's a reality. reid said it's beginning to look to him as though we will plunge over the cliff come tuesday. they are keeping an eye on washington to see what develops. since it looks as though we are headed for higher taxes, i want to bring in terry savage, a personal finance expert for the chicago sun times. terry, let's walk through the higher taxes. we heard little class families are likely to lose $2,000 a year. you break it down this way for single earners making $85,000 a year if their take home pay is $2500 every two weeks. when the higher taxes kick in, they will see their pay go down $120. that's not a little. we are taking a major hit. >> this is big money. almost $400 a month. when you add up a cou
pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid to the white house this afternoon for a fiscal cliff summit. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> today's white house meeting might be the last chance to come to an agreement. that's because it takes time for a bill to work its way through both chamber of commerce. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> under senate rules, the only way a bill could make its way through the procedural hurdles in time is if every senator agrees not to. they'll have 24 hours. outside the beltway, carlino will be watching. >> everyone is kind of in a wait-and-see and fingers-crossed per expect tichb right now. >> since 1930 this is only the fifth time congress has worked after christmas. and today's summit is the first time president obama has met face to face with congressional leaders since mid-november. duarte, tick tock. >> thank you. >>> general schwarzkopf is being remembered this morning as a great hero and tactician. as teresa garcia the general died yesterday at his home in tampa from
of the democrats did. >> the little smirks and all that, but the fact is he went in there superseding harry reid who wasn't getting anything done. at least something happened. people wanted to see some sort of action. they wanted to know their congressmen who went home for the break would actually do something. >> here's mitch mcconnell on how this thing went together. he doesn't like the way it happened either but it's still done. >> shouldn't have taken us this long to come to an agreement, and this shouldn't be the model for how we do things around here. i know i can speak for my entire conference when i say we don't think taxes should be going up on anyone, but we all knew that if we did nothing, they would be going up on everyone today. each of us could spend the rest of the week discussing what a perfect solution would have looked like. but the end result would have been the largest tax increase in american history. so it took an imperfect solution to prevent our constituents from a very real financial pain. >> as we mentioned at the outset, the final vote in the senate -- remember, it sti
and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jessica, we said up front, it is a long shot, give us a best case scenario. >> reporter: the best case scenario would be that all the leaders walk out of this meeting and say they have a deal. the two senators say they can bring it to a vote, and none of their members will filibuster it. house speaker john boehner says he will bring it to the house floor for a vote before new year's eve and house minority leader nancy pelosi
from its christmas vacation to work on a deal today. sources tell us majority leader harry reid will be pushing a scaled back version of the fiscal cliff package that president obama laid out last week. it moved the tax hike needle to $400,000 per household. no word yet on when the house might come back with time ticking away. democrats are hoping that a scaled back plan could get through the house, senate and white house before that big ball drops on 2013. that would be sometime on december 30th or even on new years eve. we want to bring in jonathan allen. he's a senior national correspondent for politico. the top headline on politico is fiscal cliff deal increasingly unlikely. i think a lot of people are feeling that pessimism right now. what are you hearing? >> well, i think what you've got here, alena, is a nash equilibrium to borrow from economic theory and game theory. each of the players believe they are pursuing their optimal strategies given the strategies of the other players and there's no reason to change it. i think as observers of this, the american public, you can
reid days before the deal. it was touched off by this comment from harry reid. >> the american people i don't think understand the house of representatives is operating without the house of representatives. it's being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker, not allowing the vast majority of the house of representatives to get what they want. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> our senior congressional correspondent, dana bash, is joining us with more on this story. pick it up for our viewers, because some ugly words were exchanged. >> reporter: that's right. this incident happened last friday in the lobby of the white house when they were waiting to go into meet with the president on the fiscal cliff, and we're told by sources from both parties that the senate majority leader, harry reid was sitting on the couch next to mitch mcconnell and the house speaker said to harry reid, go blank yourself, and the blank starts with an "f." and reid laughed it off and did not take it seriously. a republican that wa
, it started this weekend when mitch mcconnell was dealing with his democratic counterpart harry reid and he felt like at one point saturday and sunday that he was not getting a real fair deal out of the majority leader. he felt like perhaps that the democrat was slow walking him toward the fiscal cliff and maybe that he wasn't going to get the kinds of concessions that he hoped to out of the senate majority leader. and so he called joe biden and those guys have a history. they helped cut a debt deal in 2011 and they helped stepped the payroll tax cut that you were just talking about back in 2010. and he was able to start negotiations with the white house. joe biden had been sidelined by president obama for most of these talks. and he was able to kind of get things going and get a better deal out of the white house than he was going to be able to out of senate democrats. >> tell me about the division between the republicans. boehner voted for the bill, cantor did not. are we seeing a fundamental split in the leadership? >> that was a very interesting vote to watch and i think part of what th
regularly with senate majority leader harry reid and vice president joe biden is now in it. those two get along much better than mcconnell gets along with the president. over the last 24 hours the president has given some ground for higher levels for income taxes and estate taxes but is also along with that demanded much more in government spending than republicans are comfortable with. this is part of the impasse. and one of the things the administration wants to do is find some across the board spending cuts and cannes. ed government contracted due to take effect starting this week. >> all right. major garrett, thank you. wyoming senator john barrassow is with us. >> thank you for having me. >> if there's a deal today, why would you vote to extend tax cuts if there are no new spending cuts? >> that's the exact thing. the real problem is spending. if you want to raise taxes as the president promised in the campaign he wanted to do that, it was to pay down on the deficit. there's no evidence of any of that and that is a major sticking point. so the democrats are divided on tax rates, on t
the cliff. that's where senate majority leader harry reid says we're headed. can washington save us with just five days to go? >>> plus, a proposal to give guns to school principals is gaining support. we're "outfront" with an arizona sheriff who's backing that plan. >>> and the 2012 election was all about viral videos, tonight we're counting down our favorite political video of the year. let's go "outfront." >>> i'm john avalon in for erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, a stark warning from capitol hill. senate majority leader harry reid says we're all headed for fiscal disaster. >> if we go over the cliff, and it looks like that's where we're headed, mr. president, the house of representatives, as we speak, with four days left before the first of the year, aren't here. >> we're now told the house will finally return to work on sunday. now, that's december 30th. in other words, less than 48 hours before we go over the fiscal cliff. meanwhile, president obama cut his hawaii vacation short to return to washington today. but has he been working on a deal? "outfront" tonight, reports fro
sent a letter to the honorable harry reid majority leader. and that's where he outline it is fact that in three business days, the summit government is going to run out of borrowing capacity. john, if there were a treasurer in a business who went to their boss and said by the way, three business days, the working capital account dies and as a result, you are not going to make payroll next week, that person would be fired. we get three days notice about hitting the debt ceiling? that seems absurd to me. >> it is not a surprise.rise we have known we were coming to this point and there are two months more -- geithner estimated in that letter that the ways in which the federal government can manage money will give about would months worth of head room, possibly even longer. february or march or -- where we really get to the -- rubber hits the road on that issue. so -- this is not a shock to anybody in government but the publication of this letter and the elevation of the issues in attempt was done in 2011. there was an early moatfication by treasury this was about to happen, trying to
. >> clayton: they all said the same thing. presidential meeting with the leaders yesterday. harry reid. >> juliet: vice president showed up. >> clayton: they must have been all on the same table hey whether we lee this table we will say modestly optimistic. listen to senator mitch mcconnell who may be the linchpin of this whole thing. he said i will take the ball and run with it in the senate. get a deal done. listen to the senator. >> we had a good meeting at the white house. we are engaged in discussions the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference. we will be working hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> charles krauthammer calling him a master negotiator. saying if it were left up to him he could solve the syrian civil war in a weekend. >> dave: he can get it done but there is still john boehner and the house republicans. i'm not modestly optimistic. anything through the hou
. >> thank you, luke. >> so we know now the ball is in the senate's court, emphasis is now on harry reid and mitch mcconnell. seems the house is not in session. johnny isakson, your colleague from georgia said congress should pass the $250,000 and below deal because that's what's going to happen afterwards. do you think that should happen? >> i do not. i think $250,000 is too low a threshold. a lot of working people who are couples would exceed that. however, i talked to some of my democratic colleagues and they are saying maybe in the $400,000 or $500,000 category we could set a benchmark. i do think it is essential that we start talking about what amount can be passed on a bipartisan basis, because, you know, i'm one who believes you shouldn't tax anyone right now. i would have supported plan b. i think that we've got to come to some terms with the impact that this is going to have and remember the other parts of this, making the child tax credit permanent, the marriage penalty relief permanent. these are things that go with any kind of a threshold that we hopefully could agree on. >>
coming up. hill right now. majority leader harry reid just spoke on the senate floor and adjourned the senate for the day. putting more pressure on house republicans to either pass the senate compromise on the fiscal cliff or kick the effort down the road to next congress. >>> it is a day of mourning in the ivory coast. and new year's celebration turned tragic early this morning when thousands tried to leave a fireworks show. more than 60 people were killed in the stampede. hundreds of others were injured. police say that most of the victims were children. a witness told reporters security forces showed up and tlig triggered panic. fireworks show was supposed to celebrate peace in the nation. >>> all flights in and out of syria's largest city are canceled tonight after clashes between the military and rebel forces. rebel leaders threatened to target all aircraft. they believed the syrian government is using commercial craft to bring in weapons. fighting intensified today in damascus suburb. syrian military claims to have killed rebels during an air attack there. today the president
on a deal. now, sources tell us majority leader harry reid will push a scaled-back version of the fiscal cliff package that president obama laid out on friday, which moved the tax hike needle to $400,000. no word yet on when the house of representatives might come back, but democrats say the only hope we have of something getting through the house, the senate and the white house may be a very last-minute deal. cnn radio's lisa is following developments on capitol hill right now. the ball is in senate majority leader harry reid's court it would seem right now, lisa. >> that's right. harry reid and the senate seem to be the only game in town right now with the senate returning today. we also know from sources, ali, that over this christmas break there were no conversations between the president and top-level republicans. sources from both parties are telling us they are watching the senate, especially the democratic leadership in the senate. we also know yesterday house republicans came out with a statement saying that he will act only after the u.s. senate acts. we're not sure what the se
the fiscal cliff, which is a sure sign that the senate majority leader, harry reid, a democrat, is working on crafting legislation on his own that he would essentially dare house and senate republicans to oppose. his legislation would likely extend the bush-era tax cuts for households making less than 250,000 a year. it might also include enough short-term spending cuts to temporarily offset for, say, six or eight months, the indiscriminate across-the-board spending cuts that are set to go into effect on january 1. yis bill would also try to tie up some year-end loose ends by extending long-term unemployment benefits, patching the alternative minimum tax that duds up hitting so many middle class families, and preventing a mbg scheduled drop-off in thdicare reimbursement rates for doctors at the start of the enar. eyre in hawaii, the president has had a low-key christmas with family and friends, but he will omoreaving this state as early as tomorrow to head back to grshington d.c. to put pressure on congress to pass that democratic plan. jim? >> any indications, nancy, where thewhether the
in hawaii. to beat the january 1st deadline senate majority leader harry reid is said to be crafting his own fiscal package. it would extend the bush era tax cuts for households making less than $250,000, extend long-term unemployment, short-term spending cuts, and make a scheduled drop in medicare reimbursement to doctors. house speaker john boehner said they've had no communication with senator reid. >>> the exconwho ambushed and killed two volunteer firefighters in upstate new york may have murdered his sister. her body was found yesterday, and police say william spamglor had the same kind of military rifle used in the connecticut school massacre. he left behind a chilling note. >> reporter: the christmas eve fire in western new york burned seven homes to the ground, but police say william spangler wanted to do much worse. he planned to burn down the entire neighborhood and "do what i like doing best, killing people." the 62-year-old shot at firefighters from a nearby bank. he killed two of them before taking his own life. police found his note and three guns, including a bushmaster rifle
leader harry reid and the rest of the senate to find a passable solution. aides say reid's plan would avoid tax increases for people making less than $250,000, eliminate some big spending cuts and restore unemployment benefits. >> i think you're likely to see a two-step process here, one sort of dealing with the immediate dynamics so that you could in fact set up a situation where you could deal with the larger situation. >> reporter: without a deal, bush-era tax cuts will expire january 1st and deep spending cuts will set in. congress set up the deadline, hoping it would force a compromise. so far, that's backfired. also flying back on air force one is lieutenant governor brian schatz and will likely be sworn in later today. just before taking off, he tweeted that he's looking forward to supporting the president's agenda. reporting live in washington, i'm dan yeielle leigh. mara, back to you. >> thank you. >>> tim geithner is adding to the pressure to get the office calf cliff deal done. in an open letter wednesday, he warned the federal government may not be able to pay its bills on
are running point on negotiations, harry reid who was negotiating has left the capital. so those negotiations have died throughout the remainder of today or earlier today. you have the vice president and senate minority leader. the last time they finished the deal the tax deal we got a couple years ago that extended tax rates, cut the social security tax by a couple points. all of that ongoing right now and that is really the last hope we have to get something done before the fiscal cliff. >> does the minority leader and the senate, do they concur with the house of representatives. because it's eventually going to have to go through the house? >> absolutely. they would remaining in contact. just to make sure that the house would be agreeable to whatever the senate minority leader put out. democrats would have to be apprised of that as well but any agreement is probably going to need democrats in the house of representatives. the house is also working on a number of procedural maneuvers tonight to pave the way for quick votes over the next few days. they are not actively involved in the negoti
. >> harry reid is blaming house speaker john boehner for the stalemate and predicts new deal will happen before the end of the year. house republicans have rejected any compromise where the wealthiest americans no longer get a tax cut. others are still optimistic. >> these deals come together at the last minute. to paraphrase ronald reagan, there has got to be a pony here someplace. >> i would urge the speaker of the house to call is back in session, to do what america expects us to do -- address the challenges, find solutions. >> americans have a lot to lose without a deal. taxes would jump an average of $2,400 for families making between $50,000 and $70,000 a year. the congressional budget office predicts the nation could lose jobs. house members will be coming back to washington on sunday to try to get a deal done by midnight on monday. wbal tv-11ews. >> now that the ravens are officially champions of the afc north division, retailers are trying to cash in on the success. >> yes, there are a lot of things out there. we caught up with one screen printer in colombia. they came up with a
sources close to the talks say senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell are drafting a small plan that could include extending unemployment insurance benefits pro-tkting about 30 million americans from paying the alternative minimum tax and allowing tax rates to increase on the wealthiest americans, but this issue remains a major sticking point with many republicans resisting any tax increase at all. economists say the last-minute process calls into question washington's ability to deal with the hard issues of tax reform and deficit reduction. >> the prospects for the economy are incredibly dim until we put in place a bigger deal, tackle these challenges, and put some certainty into the economy and boost confidence. >> reporter: meanwhile, americans watched with worry and frustration. >> i think they're all failing us a great deal and i'm so sick and tired of them fighting. >> the equivalent of worried about your mortgage after you're already homeless. so it's, like i said, sad. they have a job to do and they're not doing it. >> reporter: now, with public pressure mounting, the ho
ton know i'm following get this done. but i need a dance partner. >> reporter: majority leader harry reid acknowledged democrats were stuck and he, too called for help. >> i have a number of conversations with the president and at this stage, we are not able to make a counteroffer. >> reporter: democrats blamed republicans for a "major setback" when mcconnell suggested chances to social security that would mean that future increases in payments to seniors would be smaller. >> we are not going to have any social security cuts. at this stage, that just doesn't seem appropriate. >> reporter: a number of republican senators backed off, saying they keep social security off the table, but want democrats to do more to reduce the deficit u. >> republicans don't want to see new revenues, in other words, democrat tax increases, be used for new spending. and so that's sort of where where many of our members are drawing the line right now. >> reporter: i asked about the role of vice president biden and i'm told that it's sort of good cop, bad cop. if mcconnell would prefer to talk to the vice pr
republican leader and the senate majority leader harry reid either. reid stepped back and now mitch mcconnell, the republican leader, is negotiating director with vice president biden. some of the details referred to leaked out may be the new income threshold with taxes going up about $400,000, $450,000. there could be a number of other things. there's so many different moving parts in this. as of right now, we still don't have a final agreement. the senate is going to be in session in just a few minutes at the top of the hour. we hope to get an update from both leaders at that point in time. >> i've heard the fiscal cliff it's been more described as a fiscal cliff slope. so it's not like we're gonna crash after midnight tonight, midnight east coast time, and we might not see a change directly in our first paychecks in 2013. >> reporter: yeah, let's just say if we go over, it will probably take a while for that to be held into your withholding on your paycheck. but it would hit every working american sooner or later if nothing is gone. a guy who lives on my block is an economist. i sai
on firm financial footing. >> harris: a spokesman for john boehner fired back "senator reid should talk less and legislate more." and senate minority leader mcconnell saying we should have worked all this out months ago. >> and republicans aren't about to write a blank check or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> harris: tonight, that is exactly where we stand. at the edge of a cliff throwing blame for how you we got here. a lot of finger pointing and no answers as i said and just days remaining until tax increases and spending cuts all kick in and we all feel the pain. mike emanuel live with the news for us tonight on capitol hill. top democrats seem to be suggesting they cannot cut a deal without republican help. >> well, harris, that is right. and so they are asking what it will take to at least get some republican support. they say time is so critical. they cannot just roll out new legislation only to have the republicans reject it. we know president obama called the top four congressional leaders last night on his way b
't be something nancy pelosi or harry reid said. so no matter what happened in your life in 2012, i hope the memories that linger and last are all about the love of god and your family because mine sure will be. [applause]. >> so what happens to obama care if half of the states in the country won't set up the health care exchanges to support the program? i will ask the georgia governor next. >> sign up for my facebook page and follow me on twitter. you can find a link to that and more at mike into i obama -- >>> obama care is set to go into affect in 2014. it is not surprising some governors chose to run health insurance exchanges under the president's controversial reform law. but what is surprising is how many. 25 states, half of the country , are saying, sorry mr. president. we will not help you enforce this flawed piece of legislation. one of the governors saying that is nathan diel who joins us now. it is a pleasure to have you here. >> thank you, mike. >> this is kind of surprising that 25 states, half of the states in this country, have said they will not set up their own exchange
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